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AgentSteel53



Joined: 16 Feb 2008
Posts: 14
Location: San Diego, CA

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: "live auctions" Reply with quote

hello,

it seems gixen is not happy with the "live" auctions offered by eBay. Leaving aside the fact that they are already enough of a hassle... is there any way I can leave a snipe bid on, for example, this item?

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&viewitem=&item=190247263727

when I attempt to submit the snipe on home_1.php, using either the auction number or the full URL, I get an error message:

Could not add this item (190247263727).

if you could please make it possible for me to snipe this item, I'd greatly appreciate it! Smile

thank you!

Jake
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juangrande



Joined: 09 Aug 2007
Posts: 889
Location: San Diego, California, USA

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AgentSteel53, you need to read up on live auctions at

http://pages.ebay.com/liveauctions/help/welcome/overview.html

The short answer is that you can't snipe a live auction because it's, well, a live auction, that is, an outcry auction. All eBay is doing is providing you a means to either enter an absentee bid or to participate when the auction is in progress. Sniping is not possible in such an auction format.
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Cupid



Joined: 09 Aug 2007
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Location: Bristol, UK

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most significant aspect, with regards to sniping, that I found was:

eBay collects absentee bids up to the moment of the auction. When the auction starts, eBay "clears" all the absentee bids and calculates the winning absentee bid. For this reason, Live Auctions is unable to announce the highest absentee bidder is before the auction starts.

... apart from the bad grammar, this indicates to me that bids are effectively sealed until the live auction begins, since no bidder is aware which is winning sniping has little significance. The only thing the bidding tells you is how much interest there is in the auction.
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juangrande



Joined: 09 Aug 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cupid wrote:
bids are effectively sealed until the live auction begins


Good point, Mark! This can be seen by viewing the bidding history http://offer.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=190247263727
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