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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:43 pm    Post subject: End time changed? Reply with quote

Re: Item#230565109139
I think the original end time on Gixen has changed from the original snipe set-up, and the auction is now showing as having ended. Any idea?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, seller must have ended this auction early.

The original end time was Fri Dec 24 03:05:53 2010 PST.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:01 am    Post subject: auction time changed Reply with quote

item 260714070138
bid never went through - auction ended - item gone.
snipe set up a day before, one hour early the auction was still on, so i don't think the seller could have ended it early.
what could that be ?
thanks !
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

okumba,

Was that snipe mirrored or only on the Main server?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

main server only.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This auction was ended early, 5 minutes before scheduled end.

The original end time was

1/8/11 07:19:07 PM PST

The auction was ended on

1/8/11 07:14:00 PM PST

For some reason, the seller decided to sell it to the current high bidder, 5 minutes before auction end. It makes no sense why some sellers do this, as it's contrary to their own interest, yet it happens.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got it - actually didn't know it was possible.
he sold to a 0 bidder, probably himself.
thanks for looking at it.
great job you guys are doing!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they made the judgement that the price they were going to get was not worthwhile they could sell to themselves, mutually agree to cancel the transaction, leave themselves glowing positive feedback... and pay nothing for the whole experience... there is some logic to it... but if they get caught doing it by eBay they will have their accounts suspended.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, though they will probably get away with it unless they use those other accounts for shill bidding.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they win their own auction with a different account eBay does class that as shill bidding... eBay doesn't immediately detect it though if the account is registered with a different location and the bids come from a different computer.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, however there is no winning bidder who might notice that he was a victim of shill bidding, so it's not likely anyone will report it to ebay. Only if ebay detects it themselves there will be consequences, but this is far less likely to happen.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I see what you meant now and, of course, I agree.
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