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[quote="spaceshaper"]Sorry, please allow me to clarify. Mario was quite clear, and I can see that with the huge volume of bids that are closing every minute, 24/7, that the servers at Gixen are sending custom-timed final bids at a high enough transfer rate so as to preclude any need for prioritization. I'm OK with that. My second question concerns what happens at the other end. Example: an item has received a number of bids, with my bid being the most recent, and the bid posting engine timer has begun the last 20 seconds, and is preparing to close. So, is a hostile bid required to trigger my account to place a last bid, and if there is no challenge is a final bid prevented, as redundant, since I already have high bid. Thanks[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>spaceshaper</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:59 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">OK, thank you, gentlemen.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>mario</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:10 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">spaceshaper, <br /> <br />What may not be clear to you is that Gixen sends only one bid, your maximum. It does not bid incrementally, that's done by ebay's proxy bidding system after this maximum bid is submitted. So you may or may not pay your maximum depending on how high other bidders bid.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Cupid</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:39 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'm still not absolutely clear... but I will try to address the aspects of the process that I think you may be referring to... there is only ever one bid sent from each Gixen server and that occurs at the time indicated by the offset that you select, the default, for non Mirror accounts, being 6 seconds before the auction ends. <br /> <br />That always happens, whether or not you have bid manually at an earlier time, there is no detection of that, it isn't necessary in any case. It would be counter productive to the end result to not place bids just because you are the highest bider at the time Gixen is to place another bid... there may be later higher bids scheduled by others which you still want to compete with at the end of the auction. <br /> <br />So long as ebay will accept your bid at the time Gixen is scheduled to place it, it will be placed, no matter what you or other bidders are doing or have done. <br /> <br />It is ebay that then determines the final price of the auction based on all the accepted bids.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>spaceshaper</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:46 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Sorry, please allow me to clarify. <br /> <br />Mario was quite clear, and I can see that with the huge volume of bids that <br />are closing every minute, 24/7, that the servers at Gixen are sending <br />custom-timed final bids at a high enough transfer rate so as to preclude <br />any need for prioritization. I'm OK with that. <br /> <br />My second question concerns what happens at the other end. <br />Example: an item has received a number of bids, with my bid being <br />the most recent, and the bid posting engine timer has begun the last <br />20 seconds, and is preparing to close. <br />So, is a hostile bid required to trigger my account to place a last bid, <br />and if there is no challenge is a final bid prevented, as redundant, <br />since I already have high bid. <br /> <br />Thanks</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Cupid</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:19 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'm not certain I understand the question. <br /> <br />As Mario said all snipe bids from all Gixen users are entered independently, there are no redundant bids. There are bids that are too low for ebay to accept but that does not make them redundant on my understanding of the word. <br /> <br />To do anything other than what Gixen currently does would be unfair both to the seller and potentially to some bidders... the process also complies with all the rules of ebay and all known laws all over the world.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>spaceshaper</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:59 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Thank you for that clarification, I need to clearly understand this process <br />before I decide whether or not to put it to use. <br />One more question: Is there a built-in constraint to identify the last top bidder <br />so that any redundant bids are prevented. <br />Thanks again</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>mario</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:07 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">There is no prioritization, as each snipe has its own process. They are sent at the specified time (3,6,8,10,12,15 seconds before end), and if they use the same offset it's completely random which one will arrive first. It depends on the internet far more than on Gixen servers.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>spaceshaper</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:56 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: multiple gixen client bidders on same item</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: normal"></span>What happens when your service is sniping the same item <br />for more than one of your clients? Who gets priority, and how?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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