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[quote="Cupid"][quote="mario"]even if your bid is higher than the current bid (but does not meet bid increment rule).[/quote] I remember it did for a short while... then I found items with no bids that I had a snipe at the starting price were yellow... I thought you backed that out completely... did you intend to update it to take account of whether or not there were existing bids?[/quote]
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Cupid
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:30 am
Post subject:
Mix,
I would not go as far as to say that bid increments do not matter, they are part of the eBay process and workings and need to be understood and taken account of.
The eBay rules dictate that a bid must be at least one bid increment higher than the current auction price, at the time the bid is placed, otherwise the bid is rejected by eBay, Gixen can do nothing to get round this rule so when your bid is not at least one bid increment above the auction price Gixen will not be able to bid and you will get a 'BID UNDER ASKING PRICE' status after the auction has finished, here on Gixen...
That is not to say that a bid that is accepted by eBay and is the last to be placed will win... you do not usually know what bid has been placed before yours, if it is higher than yours you are still not going to win the auction... just push the price that the ealier bidder will have to pay a bit higher.
It is important to realise that eBay uses bid increments in two ways, the first is as explained above and affects whether bids are accepted or rejected. The second is that the current auction price is worked out as the second highest bidders maximum bid plus at most one bid increment... the affect being that you never pay more than one bid increment more than somone else is prepared to bid... but this also means that you do not usually know what another bidders maximum bid actually is, if the auction price is currently one bid increment more than the second highest bidders bid then the current highest bid may be much higher than what you (or Gixen) can see.
Mix
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:10 pm
Post subject: reply to bid increment response
Cupid wrote:
Mix,
Gixen sends your maximum bid in the last few seconds of the auction.
eBay works out whether it is enough to win at the end of the auction and, if other buyers are not prepared to bid as much as you, you may only have to pay an amount less than the maximum that you entered.
Gixen does not need to work out what is necessary because eBay does that.
Cheers Cupid for your quick response- great service :D
So it actually does not matter what the bid increments is as long as my max gixen bid allows for the bid increment to be met?
So for instance if the previous bid was 250.00, As long as my max gixen bid is 255 or higher (and the gixen gods are smiling on me :) ). Theoretically this should be fine?
Ebay will determine whether my bid is eligible to be submitted... I think I'm getting it. Please let me know if the above is correct.
Thanks as always.
Mix
Cupid
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:36 am
Post subject:
Mix,
Gixen sends your maximum bid in the last few seconds of the auction.
eBay works out whether it is enough to win at the end of the auction and, if other buyers are not prepared to bid as much as you, you may only have to pay an amount less than the maximum that you entered.
Gixen does not need to work out what is necessary because eBay does that.
Mix
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:15 am
Post subject: bid increment clarification
So I apologise if this has already been answered above. But I am still a little confused. I would like to Gixen an item that I estimate will sell for between 200-300 dollars (I have used Gixen many times for smaller value items and I love it! great service guys :D)
In Aust the bid increments for items of this value is from 2.50 to 5.00
(//pages.ebay.com.au/help/buy/bid-increments.html)
The confusion I have is this: Will Gixen place a higher bid (say $1) above the current price when in fact a $2.50 or $5.00 bid is required. Or does the application recognise the amount that needs to be bid (and as long as it is within the max amounts set by myself) bid accordingly?
mario
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:17 am
Post subject:
Cupid wrote:
I remember it did for a short while... then I found items with no bids that I had a snipe at the starting price were yellow... I thought you backed that out completely... did you intend to update it to take account of whether or not there were existing bids?
True, it's very possible Gixen no longer picks up number of current bids from listings (after some ebay change), and that that went unnoticed by me. I'll check that later today.
Cupid
Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:42 am
Post subject:
mario wrote:
even if your bid is higher than the current bid (but does not meet bid increment rule).
I remember it did for a short while... then I found items with no bids that I had a snipe at the starting price were yellow... I thought you backed that out completely... did you intend to update it to take account of whether or not there were existing bids?
mario
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:51 pm
Post subject:
portablejon,
If you submit a bid below what is needed, I think Gixen already paints it in yellow, even if your bid is higher than the current bid (but does not meet bid increment rule).
As for the rest... Some of the features can certainly be implemented, but not everything. JBidWatcher is a standalone program (an excellent one), and no hosted service can reasonably match all the features of a standalone program at no cost (and no standalone program can match reliability of hosted service). Storage is not free, and especially not processing power for searching, sorting, etc, as Gixen adds probably around half a million snipes per month.
Everything about Gixen is really designed to keep the cost low. I will be looking, however, at improving Gixen Desktop Manager, so that users can store their own history locally.
At some point Morgan (JBidWatcher creator) and I were discussing JBidWatcher adding a support for Gixen (so that users can combine best of both), but this never materialized. He was too busy, I lost patience after waiting for many months, and made Gixen Desktop Manager instead.
Cupid
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:10 pm
Post subject:
Yes, Gixens' primary function is a sniping service, not an auction monitoring and management service though some monitoring features are present.
portablejon
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:03 pm
Post subject: BID INCREMENTS
Gixen should show BI bid increments and currently needed BI to place bid. I would recommend to have this setting on by default and let end users select whether or not do display this option. Gixen seems good as online service but lacking so much when compared to my stand-alone program jbidwatcher which i am looking for a solution to not have to keep computer on.
Cupid
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:00 am
Post subject:
Bid increments are part of the eBay auction process, you have to bid at least one bid increment above the current auction price (if there is already at least one bid) otherwise eBay will not accept your bid... so you can not really blame sellers if you have this result, it is other buyers that are causing it.
The other way eBay uses bid increments is that the amount you have to pay is no more than one bid increment above what another buyer was prepared to bid.
Whatever you decide to bid you can never be certain of winning because in most cases you are not able to tell what the current high bidder has already bid, and certainly you can never tell what other late bids are coming.
What is always best is to decide what the absolute maximum bid you would be prepared to pay, and if it went for more than that you would be relieved you were not paying that much... and then set that as your snipe value... always taking into account the shipping cost of course.
There are no rules on eBay about bidding nice round figures, I very rarely do, so often what snipers like me do is bid a penny or so above a round figure say 8.02 instead of 8.00 as many buyers think they do have to bid in set amounts and loose out to the slightly higher bid as a result.
smallesttreasures
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:54 pm
Post subject: bid increments
I am just now running into the bid increment thing. Is there an easy way to figure out how much more I have to bid over my maximum to the next highest to make sure you win the auction...
So many of the Chinese sellers seem to be using this to extort more than the actual hign bid. I looked on the auction and saw the increments seemed to be in .15 cent increments. I calculated what I would need to bid to allow for the exact next highest bid after my top ammount. It seems to be $7.00 for the items or there about.
Now that they are using this bid increment thing I can not figure out what I would need to bid to give them the exact amount required just over the highest bid. It seems to me that a buyer can come in and bid 2 or 3 cents over the increment and throw the entire system off kilter.
Current Price
Bid Increment
$ 0.01 - $ 0.99
$ 0.05
$ 1.00 - $ 4.99
$ 0.25
$ 5.00 - $ 24.99
$ 0.50
$ 25.00 - $ 99.99
$ 1.00
$ 100.00 - $ 249.99
$ 2.50
$ 250.00 - $ 499.99
$ 5.00
$ 500.00 - $ 999.99
$ 10.00
$ 1000.00 - $ 2499.99
$ 25.00
$ 2500.00 - $ 4999.99
$ 50.00
$ 5000.00 and up
$ 100.00
I am getting that I won and then all of a sudden it changes and states Bid under asking price ebay increment not met.
The auction prior to this one said the same thing but another person won that auction...
I have not seen this kind of thing befor but I think it is a way to force higher prices or eliminate sniping. Why would a seller continue to put auction after auction up like this if he did not want to sell?
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