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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:28 am    Post subject: How Sniping Works Reply with quote

I just had a question on how sniping works. To my understanding, sniping sites like this would analyze the current maximum bid on the product, look at the amount you put as your maximum, and then bid to the next bidding increment within the last 5 seconds so long as your maximum bid is still over this amount.

If this is incorrect, then I'm assuming gixen just takes the maximum bid you input on the site, and bids that in the last few seconds.

Which is correct?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FOR EXAMPLE:

Version 1:

Item is going at 100 dollars, bidding increment is 1 dollar.

What I'm willing to pay is 150

Gixen makes sure the item is going for 100 in the last few seconds, then bids 101 since that's below what I'm willing to pay.

Version 2

I input 150 into gixen, and it bids that in the last few seconds.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The second is correct.

You do not generally know what the current high bidders' maximum bid actually is, by looking at the current bidding.

There are many reasons why the first method would not work, a couple for you to consider are:

{1} Gixen would have to bid multiple times up to your maximum, there is not time to for that in the last few seconds even for an automated system,

{2} You do not know whether another bidder is going to bid nearly as much as your maximum at the last second... you maximum bid must be placed with eBay before the end of the auction for it to count.

That does not mean that you necessarily pay that much because eBays' bidding system ensures that you pay no more than one bid increment more than the second highest bidder was prepared to bid.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cupid wrote:
The second is correct.

You do not generally know what the current high bidders' maximum bid actually is, by looking at the current bidding.

There are many reasons why the first method would not work, a couple for you to consider are:

{1} Gixen would have to bid multiple times up to your maximum, there is not time to for that in the last few seconds even for an automated system,

{2} You do not know whether another bidder is going to bid nearly as much as your maximum at the last second... you maximum bid must be placed with eBay before the end of the auction for it to count.

That does not mean that you necessarily pay that much because eBays' bidding system ensures that you pay no more than one bid increment more than the second highest bidder was prepared to bid.


Thank you so much for your time and explanation Sir. The purchase I'm using this site for will actually be my first on ebay, so I didn't actually know the part about only paying one bid increment over the second highest bidder. That actually puts me at relative ease... And completely renders the first version i suggested moot.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:15 pm    Post subject: Delayer Reply with quote

Snipping is delayed bidding, nothing more.
SpadesHeart wrote:
Sniping sites .. would analyze the current maximum bid on the product..
When you snipe, you reschedule your bid to be placed with ebay later. If you want to win, bid the maximum that you will pay for the item, one time only. No-one else can see your bid. Your maximum bid is kept secret until exceeded by another bidder. You have to pay to see anyone else's bid.

When you snipe, no one will have enough time to bid "in reaction," to your bid. Unless you are outbid, no one will know what your maximum bid was. eBay will increase your bids only as much as necessary to stay ahead of the first loser, up to your maximum amount. When you win you pay only the minimum increment amount above the first losers bid, or the same as the first loser, if you bid first!
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