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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:18 am    Post subject: Making people wait 60 seconds before accessing account Reply with quote

I have been using the free version of Gixen for years but I have been seriously considering upgrading to the paying service the last couple of months as I have become a much more serious collector over the last year and I try and avoid bidding at all as I have seen prices go insanely high on items simply becuce a couple of people got into a bidding war. Its best to just enter the amount you are willing to pay in Gixen and leave it at that, but forcing people to wait 60 seconds for no reason at all has ade me consider using a different bidding service altgether. Its even more annoying than video sites making you watch advertisements. I just cant support a site that uses such methids to try and get people to become paying customers.

So at least in this case, your 60 second timer has had the exact opposite effect. Instead of getting me to become a aying member, its made me decide not to become a paying member. My advice would be to axe that whole idea asap.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I responded already to a few emails about this, and I don't mind discussing it in the forum. So here is the reasoning behind it.

Gixen was free since beginning, which was more than 10 years ago, since August 2006. I made it running for free by having a day job. Mirror generated some income, but it has always been low. To give you an idea - I recently met at a conference one of the owners of competing, paid, service, and he has staff of 5, including himself, and supports that with 1/3 of the traffic Gixen has. Meanwhile I cannot afford to quit my job and support just myself. Mind you - I am not bitter about it, I chose my business model myself - but I have every right to modify it if it makes sense.

I finally realized that not only that it's difficult for myself, it's not even good for Gixen users. I cannot find time to make major improvements to the service - e.g. I have no time nor resources to develop mobile apps. I cannot take a vacation without constantly checking my cell phone, as I cannot afford to hire help. So I realized I have to increase revenue.

There were two ways to do this: one - to hike fees for Gixen Mirror users. I did not want to do this, as I actually owe a big deal of gratitude to mirror subscribers. And I mean it - I may not say that often enough.

As for free users, I owe them far less, in all honesty. And if there was not for mirror subscribers, occasional or repeated, the service wouldn't have survived at all.

I still want to keep the service free (with annoyances or not), as I understand that some users may not use the service frequently enough, or may not be able to subscribe for other reasons. But I have to make it worthwhile for users to subscribe. In the past 10 years I have been trying to do that by improving mirror service. Now, unfortunately, I have to do that by slightly degrading user experience of the free service.

I understand, to a point, your annoyance with this change, but if you re-think it you will realize that you really have no argument for it. You are annoyed because you are used to Gixen being free and without annoyances.

Gixen is still a very good deal, with counters or not. I would like to keep you as a user, but I am aware that I may not be able to keep everyone.

I hope this explains it.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:43 am    Post subject: waiting annoyment Reply with quote

Ads are OK for me. Ill change my sniper if waiting times stays. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what Mario is saying is that he is prepared to lose a few, in order to try and make the service more sustainable for the rest by increasing the proportion that support the service.

A few observations:

a> If you end up moving to a less reliable service, it might not decrease your overall frustration at having to wait 60 seconds every time you want to use this one, for free, as much as you might have hoped.

b> If you end up paying more than $6 for a similar service you will have actually lost out by leaving.

c> If your first recourse, after being asked to contribute something ($6 per year) after perhaps some years of using the service without doing so, when the opportunity has been there and the rest of community have thus supported you... is to threaten that service... then can you genuinely hold you head up high as an truly honourable Gixen user ?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:48 pm    Post subject: Making people wait 60 seconds before accessing account Reply with quote

I had paid for the mirror service but seems it expired. Where can I see the history/dates for when I had it?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly, this seems to be a typical attitude of too many people in current times. Not sure if most of these folks complaining are Millennials or if they are older, but that would fit the typical stereotype to a T. "I am annoyed by something that is absolutely free AND USEFUL to me. Make it stop or I will leave, you owe me that much."

To that, I say LEAVE THEN!

I can't say I have contributed enough to Gixen in comparison to the usage I have enjoyed, but I did subscribe for 1 year a while back after having problems multiple times with free snipes. I was fairly pissed off at the fact that the issues seemed to pop up at the most inopportune times. I really could only blame myself though, because I chose a free service over a pay service, not that a fee service can offer a perfect guarantee, free from troubles either. However, after that first year, I let the subscription lapse and have not renewed since.

The recent changes have had me thinking much more seriously about subscribing once again. Since the Mirror subscription, I have had a few more glitches that resulted in snipe failures. Perhaps for $6 for a year, these would go away completely. I think Gixen is a bargain and hope that it can remain free or low cost, but would rather see it go to a few service before folding all together.

Thank you for offering the service to begin with. I can't begin to tell you the time and money it has saved me over the years. I owe it to Gixen to give a small portion of that back! In fact, I am going to subscribe as soon as this posts.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Making people wait 60 seconds before accessing account Reply with quote

BIFANOC wrote:
I had paid for the mirror service but seems it expired. Where can I see the history/dates for when I had it?


Welp, you should have got one - and I'm pretty sure two - emails from gixen reminding you that your mirror service was going to expire in upcoming weeks before it did so. Have you checked your e-mail service that you used to set up your gixen account?

Beyond that search your PayPal history for payments made to Gixen.

An active mirror service will show info in your gixen account settings, showing the expiration date and reminding you there are x number of days remaining before renewal is required. But I don't think there is any history as such that shows once a mirror subscription is allowed to expire.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:32 am    Post subject: No problem Reply with quote

Wasted quite a lot on other snipe sites. Given up hope then found this site. I have saved money using GIXEN. So will be upgrading soon $6 a year. Saved more than that already.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:20 am    Post subject: Re: Making people wait 60 seconds before accessing account Reply with quote

At the very bottom of the main page after you log in, it tells you when your subscription started (or ends possibly). There is also a link to renew right there as well.

BIFANOC wrote:
I had paid for the mirror service but seems it expired. Where can I see the history/dates for when I had it?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:27 pm    Post subject: Timer/Paying for service Reply with quote

I don't like the timer either but its a small price to pay for a free service. Personally, I want to contribute but my financial situation at the present time does not allow me to. I do plan to contribute as soon as I am able. I am presently trying to return back to school so I can get a job that pays enough so I can pay for worthwhile things such as this service. If it wasn't for this service I would not be able to afford items that I need and would have to do without. We are lucky to have this service and I definitely plan to contribute as soon as I have the funds to do it. I hope this service stays online. My guess is that many poor people depend on it. I consider this service a community service and I thank you for keeping it online. I also thank you for putting up this forum so I can express my feelings.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your considerate comment. It is Mario's intent to keep the free version of Gixen available to serve people in your situation. Putting in the delay as an annoyance is a way to remind users of the free service that for a remarkably low price they can remove the annoyance and enjoy the the best sniping service out there.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:02 pm    Post subject: Thankful! Reply with quote

I have used the Gixen free service for 4 years and I'm super grateful that someone spent their own personal time to create it and let me use it for FREE! Amazing! It has helped me scoop up great items on ebay and not have to get into bidding wars with other bidders. I really appreciate that. If I have to wait 60 seconds, big deal. You could ask me to wait 5 minutes, I don't care. I'll launch it and then go put on a cup of tea. It's worth it! If I had an idea for an app, you'd be the first person I would contact to code it for me. Gixen has been so reliable and worked perfectly all these years. Let the crybabies go to other snipers. You do not need the ingratitude. I foresee that ebay will figure out how great it is and buy Gixen from you so that you will be able to retire nicely, like they did with kjiji. Keep up the fantastic work!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:16 am    Post subject: Paid Subscription Reply with quote

I understand the reason behind the wait period , but the problem is I paid for a subscription and then began receiving notifications to join the service and then have to deal with the countdown ticker . I understand trying to make it hard for the non payers, but i paid and being treated like I am a non payer. Not very good customer service.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

muchtobuy123,

This is highlighting to you that the Mirror service that you paid for is not active on your account, please email Mario direct at the support address given on the Contact tab above.

Please include the details you can find, or recall, about when you paid your Mirror subscription, and also include your Gixen id, both these things will help Mario track down what has happened and why your Mirror subscription was not activated properly.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:53 am    Post subject: waiting time on the free service Reply with quote

Amazed that somebody had the nerve to complain about the free service !

So it annoyed them, so what? thats the point! the annoyance can be removed by PAYING

Threatening that they should have the timer removed or else they will leave? well i would just ban them from the service. immediatly.

The ONLY good thing is it has highlighted the cost of the sevice, so i will be subscribing in the new year and not because i need the mirror service
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn't agree more. I'm seriously p****d off by the entitlement generation. My youngest is the same; comes home from school with all sorts of "my rights" statements... guess how far that gets him!

Apologies for all those I've insulted, I know it's a stereotype, but I'm in the grumpy old man stereotype, so I reserve my right to live down to it Twisted Evil

I've been using Gixen on and off since the start. Originally I got the mirror service by hosting a link on my own site, but I write and sell software too and totally get where Mario's coming from.

So I've subscribed.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject: Gixen Software Reply with quote

Mario,

I have been a paid up mirror subscriber for a number of years now (as far as I am aware) and I have saved a fortune using your software, however within the last 12 months, as mentioned to you in an previous email sometime ago eBay have software which tells other users that they are the higher or lower bidder, this encourages bidders to bid and undermines this software. The way I get around this is to still use Gixen but put my bid in within the last 60 seconds, if I did not do this then Gixen would not be as effective as it was previously. In the past, I had a 98% win rate, as eBay use this new software I can't guarantee this success.

Regards

Justin
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:08 am    Post subject: Gixen Mirror Reply with quote

I have just paid for Gixen Mirror and am happy to do so. I was paying a lot more before and having tried this service for a couple of months now I'm more than happy with it. I'm not sure why people expect to get something for free and this is an incredibly small price to pay.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

007macadder/Justin,

The amount of your snipe bid is not passed by Gixen to Ebay until the scheduled time... just as it always has been. It is thus not possible for Ebay to know what bid is coming, and instruct other bidders accordingly as you suggest, any more than it could over the many years that Gixen has been providing this service.

So, I don't know why you think the Gixen service has been degraded by the closer integration between Gixen and Ebay to perform that task.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone has to put in their time and efforts in building and maintaining a product like this, so I'm happy to chip in $6 a year.

It's a reasonable price to pay, but I do understand there may be people who wouldn't want to go down that path. I suppose the only option they have is to move to another free provider, if one exists.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... or be prepared to wait 60 seconds to get in to continue using this one, for free ...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been using Gixen for a long time. I do'nt use it a lot as I don't do a lot of bidding if I did $6 is not a lot for a Service that saves you time waiting online and bidding manually on eBay
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: waiting time on the free service Reply with quote

play wrote:
Amazed that somebody had the nerve to complain about the free service !

So it annoyed them, so what? thats the point! the annoyance can be removed by PAYING

Threatening that they should have the timer removed or else they will leave? well i would just ban them from the service. immediatly.

The ONLY good thing is it has highlighted the cost of the sevice, so i will be subscribing in the new year and not because i need the mirror service


And actually i just realised that the subscription cost will make no difference to my xmas spend so didnt bother waiting till the new year . gixen may as well have it now to go towards their xmas !
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just cant support a site that uses such methids to try and get people to become paying customers.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

harry wrote:
I just cant support a site that uses such methids to try and get people to become paying customers.


Harry, were you going to support it otherwise?

I find this method to be much better than popups, excessive ads, or raising fees for users who already support the site. It's also (much) better than making subscription mandatory. There is nothing sinister about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:10 pm    Post subject: Entitlement Harry Reply with quote

harry wrote:
I just cant support a site that uses such methids to try and get people to become paying customers.


Were you supporting it before? Be honest now, Harry. You feel you are owed a lot, don't you? Developers owe you their work, right? Which ad blocker do you run? Which site is your favorite for downloading pirated music? Whose Netflix and Hulu accounts are you using? Do you steal your neighbor's wifi, or just sit in McDonalds all day without buying anything?

No reason to answer, Harry. I doubt you are able to tell the truth anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:48 am    Post subject: Come on guys... Reply with quote

You must be joking. It's literally 60 seconds guys and the site admin has a very legit reason for implementing it. At the end of the day you use Gixen because it's the best free sniper - timer or not! But you're willing to waste your time trying to find some other crappy snipe site for the sake of saving 60 seconds of your day...? Go ahead. No one would lose out except you.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:29 pm    Post subject: bye gixen Reply with quote

why waste 60 seconds for this guy to prove his point, when there are so many other free services out there?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: bye gixen Reply with quote

underscore001 wrote:
why waste 60 seconds for this guy to prove his point, when there are so many other free services out there?


I am not exactly "making a point" here, but it goes without saying that in sniping arena you have many choices, paid and free, with different limitations and quality of service. There is a lot of competition. Note that all services entice users to subscribe to something, buy software, or limit options for free service. Countdown is somewhat unique, I admit to that - but its purpose is to "nudge", not torture users.

I think that most users understand this, as I have received a relatively small number of complaints both by email and here in the forum, when taken into account the number of users who use Gixen every day. Meanwhile, subscriptions are significantly up. For all that have subscribed since - thank you very much.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:12 pm    Post subject: 60 Second wait Reply with quote

I have been using the Gixen free service for 3 years and am quite happy to continue doing so, a 60 second wait is a small price to pay for such a useful and reliable app. If I were able to afford the Mirror service I would gladly pay for it but my current financial circumstances mean I have to use the free service, and grateful for it I am. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little bit of feedback:
I don't use the service much (3-6 times a year), neither do i need the advanced options, but I use the sniper from time to time. Two years ago around xmas i thought: I've been a user for 5 years or so, gixen was always good to me, why not donate as a 'thank you'. While I used my mirror-enabled account gixen did fail on me (sniped two items of a group not because there was too little time between snipe executions but because of a gixen bug) and I had some stress because I relied on a feature which worked for me fine before, but, hey, shit happens. Needless to say Murphy striked when I was bidding for used notebooks in the 500 range, which is a lot of money for me. A friend of mine said 'oh i can use a notebook' but then backed down, so i had to talk the original seller into taking back the computer. In the end, thanks to a friendly seller, i did only lose the price for the postage and packaging (~10$). However, a 'sorry' would have been nice when we wrote about the incident, because I had all this real-world-troubles with communicating and waiting in line at the post office and stuff. I mean, I don't blame you for them, but you could sympathize, even though I didn't bring it up you could have known that it was trouble for me. Like it always is when deals go wrong. I wouldn't have minded that much if that error happened while i was a non-paying customer, but I was in that time, and thus I had slightly different expectations about reliability and the service. Now a year later we have this silly countdown. The 20 second countdown is way more endurable than the 60 second one, but I sure don't feel like "i want to say thank you because gixen was always good to me" anymore.

Have a nice day and a happy festivus

PS Posting to the forum doesn't work in Firefox 58.0b11 for me, but it does in Chrome 63.0.3239.84. Weird.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:43 am    Post subject: Re: Thankful! Reply with quote

lpope22 wrote:
I have used the Gixen free service for 4 years and I'm super grateful that someone spent their own personal time to create it and let me use it for FREE! Amazing! It has helped me scoop up great items on ebay and not have to get into bidding wars with other bidders. I really appreciate that. If I have to wait 60 seconds, big deal. You could ask me to wait 5 minutes, I don't care. I'll launch it and then go put on a cup of tea. It's worth it! If I had an idea for an app, you'd be the first person I would contact to code it for me. Gixen has been so reliable and worked perfectly all these years. Let the crybabies go to other snipers. You do not need the ingratitude. I foresee that ebay will figure out how great it is and buy Gixen from you so that you will be able to retire nicely, like they did with kjiji. Keep up the fantastic work!


Exactly my thoughts. Super grateful to one man Gixen team.
Also I have one additional comment to make. Subscribers can continue to have ad free service but we users of free service don't mind the wait time or adverts. If adverts would increase your income we, free users dont mind seeing them one or two or even for 5 minutes!!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

f1losof,

Can you please email me? Even though this was two years ago I would like to go back and refresh my memory about what happened. In situations like that one, where Gixen bug is responsible, I do my best to at least cover the expense (or more) users endure because of it. If I haven't already - I do apologize for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:30 pm    Post subject: Thank you, Mario. For everything. Reply with quote

Hello, children. Please consider your entitlement.

- It's one thing to be too cheap to pay $5 for something you use a lot.

- It's entirely another to complain about waiting 60 seconds to use it - especially when this literally saves you tons of time and money.

If don't donate because you rarely come here, you won't have to wait very long, will you? If you use it all the time, you really should be subscribing. And if you leave because you won't pay for something even when it is useful, why should Mario care? You are the worst kind of consumer (wants everything, pays nothing).

Thank you, Mario, for all of your hard work. For loving your product enough to support it despite earning very little revenue. The rest of us really appreciate all of your hard work.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:05 am    Post subject: Absolutely amazing Reply with quote

This is absolutely appalling. Am I wrong, or are you complaining about paying $0.50/month to use a sniping service that dramatically increasing your eBay using experience. "....my financial situation at the present time does not allow me to." Whoa! Mind blown. The guy is asking for a gallon and a half of gas a year. Every snipe you make you probably save $10-30. $6 is the difference between 1st Class and Standard USPS shipping! I'm not a guzzilionaire, I understand that times can be rough, but $6/year! That won't even buy Mario a Chipotle burrito to stay up late and answer your email. If you can't afford $6, you should probably reconsider the very internet/mobile service you are using to post on this site. If you seriously can't spend less than 2 pennies per day for this service, 60 seconds of wait time is the least of your problems.

Honestly, think about what you are arguing. Sure it's annoying as hell, but imagine the crap this poor guy puts up with every day on your behalf.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:28 am    Post subject: Praise Reply with quote

I never write comments on the net- I don't care. But Gixen and Mario are and I have to say that Gixen IS the best and always was the best,timer,paid or not.
The support is/was always stellar, the product is and was simply amazing. Guys, there are NO options to Gixen, none. Gixen worked and works for me and I cannot say enough times THANK YOU, Mario/GIXEN!!! Mike
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll just switch tab and browse ebay while I wait for the timer to go down. Unfortunately we live in a Neoliberal world where everybody wants to take (high cost of living), but nobody wants to give (low wages).

If we had a high wage low living cost society, businesses and small enterprises like Gixen would really take off as people would be happy to spend their spare money. This is something businesses all too often forget when they pay their employees poor wages to please shareholders. Even Henry Ford realised he needed to pay his employees a decent enough wage to be able to buy the cars they were building.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gixen is fantastic. Gixen with a 60 second wait is..................fantastic. I would love to see the owner be able to quite his day job and be sustained by Gixen revenue, but I don't think that is going to happen without dropping an Ad or two on the page. I don't know if I use the service enough to warrant paying for mirror, but have you considered levels of service? Perhaps snipe bundles? A 10 snipe pack for $1, 30 snipes for $2. I'm pretty cheap, but I'll pay a dollar for almost anything. Heck, I even gave a dollar to Wikipedia the other day. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:55 am    Post subject: Re: waiting annoyment Reply with quote

outstandin001 wrote:
Ads are OK for me. I´ll change my sniper if waiting times stays. Sad


I wonder why you don't pay for mirror (it's only $6 dollars) instead of complaing? gixen wins you bids and saves you money.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:54 am    Post subject: Use the 15 sec delay productively Reply with quote

Hmmmm.... how to use the 15 seconds productively.

One could use something akin to a captcha, that delives a message.

Users think nothing of answering a captcha, that has pictures, text, or asks a question.

Are "free" gixen users any different?

Another alternative revenue enhancer could simply be a SUPPORT button on gixen.

Many people simply "pass the hat" and request "donations". Another possibility is an amazon search for like items, and get the referral fees. A find simliar for "did not win" items might be nice.

The 15 second delay, could be used to display a "video" about some "paid" gixen feature, like groups. Of course, the time could simply display an ad of some time. I have personally used several "pay" sites, that I happy recommend because of quality of service/product - many pay for referrals.

These are not mutually exclusive and all be used. What's more they can actually improve the functionality of the site.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i totally dont get it, people NOT subscribing.
i did it, even without the counter just to support this.
you dont seem to understand, if you successfully snipe,
youre sure to have saved WAY more than 1 year(!) fee of just 6$.
seriously, wtf.
how greedy can the people be??
thanks for the service, using it for 4 years now.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:49 am    Post subject: counter Reply with quote

The 60 second counter is a bit of a pain - but i accept that you have to generate some income to keep the service going.

As an infrequent bidder it would not be worthwhile for me to pay for the higher service and I would not favour a limit on number of 'free' bids as I may bid on 10 items in one month and none for the next 6 months.

I would suggest however that as you have a lot of free page room - it would be beneficial to you if you showed changing adverts while the viewer is waiting for the counter to end.

This would generate better income for yourself as well as give the viewer something to hold their attention during the wait.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: counter Reply with quote

mfenwy wrote:
As an infrequent bidder it would not be worthwhile for me to pay for the higher service and I would not favour a limit on number of 'free' bids as I may bid on 10 items in one month and none for the next 6 months.


I will reveal a few details - it's 60 seconds only for users who are using Gixen two years or more, and never subscribed, and for users who disabled advertising emails (which I mail rarely anyway). Otherwise it's 20 seconds.

As for the pattern of usage - not sure if you are aware, but Gixen also offers "Gixen chunks" subscription, that's also $6 for 6 "chunks" of 15 days. Chunks must be activated from the settings page, and once a chunk is activated it expires in 15 days. Unactivated it does not expire ever.

I am considering introducing additional types of subscriptions to allow for more flexibility (e.g. infrequent users), but I'm not sure what kind yet.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:15 am    Post subject: Waaaa... Reply with quote

60 seconds was a great idea. I am about to pay up. Service has worked flawless for me. Except you pissed off some whiners who are not paying customers anyway. They can call a waaam-bulance.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bunch of cry babies in here. This service kicks ass and he's asking for what...50 cents a month? If ya'll don't have that, ebay is probably the last place you should be.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: counter Reply with quote

mario wrote:

I am considering introducing additional types of subscriptions to allow for more flexibility (e.g. infrequent users), but I'm not sure what kind yet.

I'd suggest a % fee option (with a yearly fee cap). Pay 5% of winning bids. Max of $6 per year. To avoid excessive payment processing fees you could charge users only when their accumulated fee reach a certain threshold, say $3.
I know I'd go for this.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: counter Reply with quote

FoxBlue wrote:

I'd suggest a % fee option (with a yearly fee cap). Pay 5% of winning bids. Max of $6 per year. To avoid excessive payment processing fees you could charge users only when their accumulated fee reach a certain threshold, say $3.
I know I'd go for this.


I will consider it, not a bad idea, although 5% is too high. However 1% with some annual cap (slightly higher than annual mirror subscription) sounds interesting.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:01 am    Post subject: thanks Reply with quote

I only login this time to say Mario "thanks for your time". I appreciate your effort to give us a free snipper alternative. I hope you could compensate with my thanks, at least one of the people that think your time is owned by them.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:42 am    Post subject: BRILLIANT SERVICE - well worth the Mirror $6 a year charge Reply with quote

GIXEN has won me very many eBay auctions and saved my having to sit by my computer for hours, to wait for end of auctions and then place a bid at the last moment manually.

So thanks, Mario, for coming up with Gixen in the first place and allowing free use over the years.

I would suggest that you simply dump the 60sec delay and make GIXEN a paying service for all, which will enable you to keep your annual charge as low as possible.

That way, my guess is you'll keep the vast majority of existing GIXEN users and then those miserly individuals who want it completely for free forever, can go and look for another snipe service.

This way, you'll have the income necessary to continue to support those of us who are grateful for the service and willing to pay a miniscule annual fee for the privilege.

I fully understand that you want to encourage users to pay for mirror service, but the 60 sec delay is probably seen as annoying to some existing users.

You're simply being too kind, in allowing continuing free use. Your mirror annual charge is tiny, so don't beat about the bush, just switch to asking for a small fee from everyone....

IDEA: You might want to build in the facility for new users to have say 10 free snipes, so they see how great GIXEN is, before splashing out and spending their hard-earned $6 Smile

Thanks again, your work is really appreciated. Regards, Alun
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:57 pm    Post subject: Excellent Value Reply with quote

Gixen has been my go-to auction sniper for years. I don't use it often, but when I do, it has never failed me. It's undoubtedly saved me a lot of money.

People complaining about a freaking 60 second wait for a free service (a very useful one, at that) are unbelievable. Switch tabs, check your email, look at Facebook - we're talking about a minute! And good lord, grow up!

If you don't want to wait, quit expecting people to hand stuff to you - pay the 6 bucks for a year subscription! You can easily save that much in one auction.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, part of me can't believe people are complaining about a short counter to use this amazing free service. I've seen far longer counters for hosting sites just to use their crappy slow free download services.

The other part of me knows this is expected. Entitled and ungrateful people everywhere.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trixen wrote:
Lol, part of me can't believe people are complaining about a short counter to use this amazing free service. I've seen far longer counters for hosting sites just to use their crappy slow free download services.

The other part of me knows this is expected. Entitled and ungrateful people everywhere.


Well said Trixen! I am a happy user for many years.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Making people wait 60 seconds before accessing account Reply with quote

Totally ludicrous to be at arms with a free service over a few seconds wait. This isn't about being a "millenial" or whatever as everyone is completely different; it's about being grateful or being ungrateful.

I buy the Mirror service when I can afford to buy things, a lot of the time money is extremely tight and I have to shop accordingly.
I'm not whingeing that the free service is not good enough though - I would be embarrassed at my self if I did
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using Gixen for a few months, and on adding a bid today, I noticed the timer. "Ohh", thinks I, "that's odd, what's happened?". So I read the text, totally understand the reasoning and now I want, like others, to thank Mario for a great product, but especially for giving-up all his time for FREE, spent developing and running Gixen.... and having to endure moaning and winging freeloading gits. Very Happy [/b]
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mario, my memory was failing me. You explicitly said "My sincere apology for this." and later "sorry for the trouble again." in the last mail, which i both probably missed because I was so upset.

However, my counter is now back at 60 from 20 seconds and I still have some issues using the forum.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:42 am    Post subject: BRILLIANT SERVICE - IMPLEMENT A PAY PER SNIPE % win fee Reply with quote

Pure Genius!!

You have set up something that values peoples time, in that they can use Gixen and allocate their time to doing something else.

if you save time are you not allowed to charge a fee for doing that...

ignore the something for nothing crew and take this to the next level. the support is already behind you.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

f1losof, please email me and include your eBay and Gixen usernames.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the free service. It's appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been a mirror subscriber for 4-5 years or something.
I use it weekly to buy items from China that I sell in my store. It must have saved me hundreds if not thousands of dollars already. And I would probably have lost like 90% of those auctions if I had to bid myself (they always end middle of the night...).
6$ in a year is a steal!

I actually would be interested to know how many auctions I have won with gixen and how much money that cost me. Would be fun and scary probably Wink
Is there any way to see those kind of stats?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

y0sti,

All there is at present is what you get when you press the 'History' button.

That appears to go back to about August 2014.

You'd need to do a fair bit of processing on it to extract the information you are talking about though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apologies Mario, I have used Gixen for free for a good few years never checking out the community or any of the other tabs. I just clicked on through to get to the goodies. I just presumed that since it was FREE it made revenue from the hits it got. I did look at the mirror service once but when I saw they were West coast US servers I just didnt think they would improve my service here in the UK any so didnt bother paying up. I am now left feeling rather guilty that you set this up yourself and that your hard work has gone unrewarded all these years.

I have recommended Gixen to all my friends and now after subscribing myself I promise to chase them all up to subscribe also. Many thanks for all the auctions you won me. GREAT SERVICE would never dream of using any other sniper service.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strathlad, all eBay servers are hosted in US, including ebay.co.uk. ebay.de, etc. UK domain doesn't mean the physical server is in UK. It isn't - as far as I know eBay has no servers outside of US, except that they use Akamai for hosting of static content.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:39 am    Post subject: Making people wait 60 seconds before accessing account Reply with quote

I use Gixen occasionally as a free user and I do not mind the timer, but I think it would be more logical to combine the timer with ads on the login page. The idea obviously being that users - like me - can enjoy the free service but have to watch some ads in return. Of course the ads might be blocked (depending on the way they are hosted), but even so it would be more logical.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:53 am    Post subject: Entitled Generation, lol Reply with quote

I have to admit, reading through some of these posts was actually really amusing. I love how people just immediately jump to the whole "entitled generation" BS. The last thing I am is entitled. I'm an architectural photographer that dropped out of college in my senior year of environmental engineering so as to pursue my dream of being a photographer. I then spent another 6 years in college, got my B.F.A. & M.F.A. in fine arts and then proceeded to start my own architectural photography business. I had to work 30-35 hours a week during my entire time through college. And for roughly 6 years after I graduated, I was DEAD BROKE as I had to turn around and invest any money made right back intoe equipment as large format photography is expensive and architectural photographers have to have entire lighting kits as well. By the time I actually started to make money I could actually keep, I had spent well over $100,000 in equipment while building up my customer base. I know people have seen the Ramen Noodle joke many times over, but in my case it is not a joke. There were literally hundreds of nights where all I ate was Ramen Noodles as I just couldn't afford to buy regular food.

It wasn't until the roughly my 5th year with my business that I actually started to make money. And during this entire time, including the years I was in college, I had to help take care of my mother, who had multiple sclerosis. My father passed away when I was just 11 from a heart attack and I am an only child. I guarantee people who haven't helped take care of a family member with a disease like MS or Alzheimer's has absolutely ZERO clue how demanding and terrible it can be at times. Thankfully she wound up passing away a few years later and I say thankfully because she was miserable and suffering terribly. Entitled, lol. I guarantee most people in here have NO CLUE what truly struggling really means or what its like to try and start up a business with very little money all while having to take care of a sick parent. There were times I actually lost clients because I had to pack up and leave in the middle of a job due to a medical emergency with my mother. To even attempt to throw the entitled generation BS in my direction is like trying to convince people Warren Buffet is poor. Its nothing short of laughable. Again, I guarantee most people in here have no clue what TRULY struggling really means.

And yes, I have been using Gixen for years, but during those years I only bid on MAYBE 4-5 items a year. So its hardly like I was being cheap and trying to get away with heavily using a site for free. It made no sense to become a paying member as I only used it once every couple months. All in all, up to this point, I have maybe bid on 35-40 items over the last 6-7 years I have used Gixen. So its hardly like I was being a cheapskate and heavily using Gixen for free. The reason I didn't become a paying member was simply because I didn't use eBay enough for it to make sense. As I stated in my initial post, I have become much more serious of a collector in recent years so I have been using eBay a lot more and I was seriously considering upgrading to the paying service because I was planning on using it a lot more in the future, NOT because I have been using it a lot more.

IMO, the only thing more annoying than all of the BS advertising on the internet is people on the internet who presume to know someone based on a single post thay make online. Honesty, those people are just as bad as fanboys and trolls. The sheer level of hubris that this entails is honestly nothing short of mind blowing. And I honestly couldn't give a rats a*s what other people in here think. I stand 100% behind my initial comment. To offer a free service and then punish or ridicule people for using that free service...well, that in itself is absolutely mind blowing. If you don't want people using your service for free, THEN GET RID of the FREE side of Gixen. Its that simple. Making people stare at their screen for 60 seconds as a way to remind them or convince them to start paying is the single worst idea I have seen to date in regards to getting people to pay for a site. I would much rather this site just went to advertising so I could actually watch something for 60 seconds as opposed to staring at a counter for 60 seconds and I hate online advertising.

Oh well, to each thier own. Again, your counter had the exact opposite effect for me. I was all ready to become a paying member, but refuse to do so now with such an awful system in place punishing those for using a system that pride's itself on being free.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, this is LargeFormatPhotographer, the person who made the initial post in this thread. I accidentally used the name OrangeCrush and not LargeFormatPhotographer as my username on most sites is OrangeCrush.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LargeFormatPhotographer,

I will have to delete that previous post, not because I am censoring the forum, but because now you started telling us your own life story which is frankly only remotely related to this, and it's a long reading.

I got your point from the first post, and I never said you were cheap. I didn't even think you were - I understand that occasional users may not see value in subscribing. That's OK, I have nothing against it. If I used the site a few times a year for items easy to find again, I probably wouldn't subscribe either.

But you have to also understand that to my and the site's bottom line it makes little difference if this had an opposite effect on you, and if instead of never subscribing you will now never never subscribe.

I had to do what I did, I accepted the risk, and still do.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm willing to pay 1% fee on my winning bids to bypass timer. I don't use gixen enough to subscribe, but I understand the value that it provides.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are bidding less than a total of $600 a year, you can only be using the service once every few months ?

If your expenditure is that low any payment you did make to Gixen would be swallowed up by Paypal fees on the Gixen side, so I think it probably wouldn't make commercial sense.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:24 am    Post subject: delayed pleasure Reply with quote

I understand your point and agree with the holding tank feature, but its the real world, everybody has their hand out for something and its just part of something we must all endure. the world is a hustle, get used to it, every opportunity to make a buck, get used to it or get left behind
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to know there is "a different bidding service" the OP is threatening to use that costs no more than $0.00 and less than $6.00 per year. Go price them out - good luck with that. Oh - and that works, at the very least, as good as gixen. Just sayin'... Rolling Eyes

I rarely bid on eBay stuff but I have been paying for the mirror service since long before this timer issue came up. Didn't even know it was an issue until I tripped across a whiny post about it. If you don't care for the $0.00 option I can guarantee you will not find any service out there that only costs as little as Mario is asking for the mirror service. $6.00 a year a problem? Move over to one of the other sites charging $6.00 a snipe. Really people - how much are you paying for your cell or cable service a month?

Mario many of us do appreciate you and your service. If you ask me it's worth a lot more than $6.00 a year.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:12 am    Post subject: Delayed pleasure Reply with quote

Subscribed.
Not had the opportunity to use Gixen yet, however; the ethos of the owner sounds spot on to me and for a measly 4.54 Sterling per annum what's not to like or object to?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: counter Reply with quote

FoxBlue wrote:
mario wrote:

I am considering introducing additional types of subscriptions to allow for more flexibility (e.g. infrequent users), but I'm not sure what kind yet.

I'd suggest a % fee option (with a yearly fee cap). Pay 5% of winning bids. Max of $6 per year. To avoid excessive payment processing fees you could charge users only when their accumulated fee reach a certain threshold, say $3.
I know I'd go for this.


Sorry, a non starter for me. Buying in wristwatches from e.g. Japan for $300-$500+ (but I admit, normally a bit lower): add in shipping cost, typically $20-$30 then add on 20% VAT from our friendly U.K. HM Customs and Excise guys already makes my heart bleed ($64 - $106!), so yet another tax of $15-$30 ) at 5%) would be the straw that breaks the camels back I feel. Keep the subscriptions option please Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-should be HMRC now of course!

Also, to my way of thinking it's either Sub to Gixen OR % charge on purchases - not both. But as I mentioned a further 'tax' would be tough to chew and a deal breaker for me, we get taxed to death here in the U.K. - directly and indirectly Sad

My two pence worth.....

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:06 am    Post subject: Re: counter Reply with quote

johnn7591 wrote:
... yet another tax of $15-$30 ) at 5%) would be the straw that breaks the camels back I feel. Keep the subscriptions option please Smile

Factual clarification: Mario said on 28 December 2017 "1% with some annual cap (slightly higher than annual mirror subscription) sounds interesting." The annual subscription might also continue as an option, and 15-day blocks. These are just suggestions bouncing around.

I haven't used Gixen yet myself (except for a deliberately unsuccessful test bid).
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant believe people are complaining, this is the best service for sniping Ive ever used and its amazing that the owner is happy to let people use it for free. It takes time, money and dedication to run a service like this and why people think others should just keep giving giving giving with little or no reward is beyond me. The cost is minimal and if you're that bothered about the timer just get your wallet out and stop with the entitlement mentality. Youve probably saved more than the fee with just a few snipes ya stingey bunch of freeloaders Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we want to ramp up the absurdity level even higher, in USD an annual mirror subscription costs 0.016438 cents per day. But if that pains you could always wait for a leap year and get a special deal at 0.016393 cents per day.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:50 am    Post subject: Waiting time Reply with quote

I subscribed and yet still have to wait 18 seconds plus?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:47 am    Post subject: Re: Waiting time Reply with quote

tonyd5747 wrote:
I subscribed and yet still have to wait 18 seconds plus?


Nope that should not be happening for a paid mirror subscriber.

If you recently subscribed I would suggest logging out of gixen, clearing your cookes for gixen, and trying again.

If that doesn't do it you need to e-mail Mario using the Contact tab at the top of the page. I think he needs your gixen user name and your PP transaction number and date of payment. (There might be something else too but I'm not sure.)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: counter Reply with quote

ferranti wrote:
johnn7591 wrote:
... yet another tax of $15-$30 ) at 5%) would be the straw that breaks the camels back I feel. Keep the subscriptions option please Smile

Factual clarification: Mario said on 28 December 2017 "1% with some annual cap (slightly higher than annual mirror subscription) sounds interesting." The annual subscription might also continue as an option, and 15-day blocks. These are just suggestions bouncing around.

I haven't used Gixen yet myself (except for a deliberately unsuccessful test bid).


I do agree ferranti; without the ability to edit I left the quote 'as is' - I should have been more fair in that respect; I thought the thread had run it's course Smile

Mario deserves to be rewarded for an excellent piece of software which has already saved me time watching bidding on one item so far (outbid by Ebay's increment rule), whether this means a primary or a decent secondary income it's nothing less that is due to him. I have quite a few in my list now though!

I am very pleased with Gixen thus far and wish him every success. I'm in this for the long run also for whatever choice his method(s) of income generation might be.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: counter Reply with quote

ferranti wrote:
The annual subscription might also continue as an option, and 15-day blocks. These are just suggestions bouncing around.


Annual option will continue for sure, I will certainly not discontinue it, and I also don't have any plans to change the pricing. Any new payment options will be in addition to the existing ones.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Making people wait 60 seconds before accessing account Reply with quote

largeformatphotographer wrote:
I have been using the free version of Gixen for years but I have been seriously considering upgrading to the paying service the last couple of months as I have become a much more serious collector over the last year and I try and avoid bidding at all as I have seen prices go insanely high on items simply becuce a couple of people got into a bidding war. Its best to just enter the amount you are willing to pay in Gixen and leave it at that, but forcing people to wait 60 seconds for no reason at all has ade me consider using a different bidding service altgether. Its even more annoying than video sites making you watch advertisements. I just cant support a site that uses such methids to try and get people to become paying customers.

So at least in this case, your 60 second timer has had the exact opposite effect. Instead of getting me to become a aying member, its made me decide not to become a paying member. My advice would be to axe that whole idea asap.


That is perhaps the most self-entitled post I have ever read,

In addition every single word of yours is utterly disingenuous, I do no believe for one second that you were seriously considering switching to the paid version.

I love this service and the developer is extremely kind to make it available to us for free.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:54 pm    Post subject: Annoying Change Reply with quote

Leaving the service due to this stupid counter change.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:02 am    Post subject: Annoying Change Reply with quote

I sympathise with Gixen's need/right to earn revenue but I think the incentive / pricing model could be more advantageous to everyone.

I think a lot of people are conditioned to avoid subscription services as they'll think they're likely to forget about the service and continue paying the subscription. I've done that with Experian (at GBP 15 a month and I didn't use it for years at a time) and myUS (at ~$250 per year). It's just human nature that for one reason or another at some time you may stop using the service and as you don't use the service you will forget to disconnect your credit card. There's also the problem of letting yet another service (that could get hacked) have your credit card or paypal details. Lastly, most subscription services don't have a way of handling low volume users to everyone's advantage. The user who uses the service a lot on a fixed subscription gets great value, the occasional user gets low value.

That means a lot of people are very resistant of signing up for subscriptions especially for stuff they don't use every day.

So: a cost per snipe (as % or $) or even a cost per successful snipe; a cost per month when if service is used; a commitment to stop charging a card after a period of non-use etc. Any of those systems may double or triple the amount of actual subscribers. I would be very happy to pay 2-3 dollars per successful snipe.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: Annoying Change Reply with quote

alanambrose007 wrote:
I think a lot of people are conditioned to avoid subscription services as they'll think they're likely to forget about the service and continue paying the subscription.


Alan, Gixen subscription expires unless you renew it yourself - Gixen never makes any charges automatically - every payment has to be made by the user. So - Gixen DOES NOT create paypal subscription. It will only remind you 10 days before expiry that Gixen Mirror will expire.

I keep repeating this, but to no avail. I assume many people have had previous bad experience with other companies or services.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:36 pm    Post subject: Ads Are Better Reply with quote

Mario this is your site so obviously you have the right to do whatever you want and desire and I respect that.... but don't you think that you'd make more money by putting up some really basic ads? Even something super basic like a constantly auto-generated eBay EPN ad with really basic daily deals and stuff like that would get a ton of traffic and likely generate more $$ for you, for this service, than charging membership fees.

You certainly deserve to be compensated for this beyond donations, but you have a site with a ton of traffic geared towards people who are already inclined to use eBay. Just my .02. Thanks for the service.

FWIW - I'm a big fan of the site and it's saved me a lot of money but at the end of the day this same service is available other places for free. If someone offers me a brand new car for free, or the same brand new car for $4000, the 4 grand is still a really good deal but no rational person passes up the free option. You can say that "yeah well how much have you saved with ____ over the years! don't be cheap!" True -- but my heat bill was 150 bucks this month. Every 6 bucks counts.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mytwocents, I wouldn't say that exactly the same service is available for free, not when it comes to features nor reliability. But I won't argue about it.

However, I will comment on ads - Gixen cannot use eBay EPN, and Google adsense, that it does use, does not make much, contrary to the popular belief. I would probably have to use something really annoying when it comes to ads in order to generate more income from it. Since I have seen sites that do this, and it becomes even unsafe for users (especially on mobile devices) as they don't apply the same scrutiny on content, I would rather stick with adsense.

Since the recent changes, there have been some complaints, but I don't see any decline in traffic or exodus of users, quite the opposite. I think most users understand why I made the changes in the way I did, and I sure appreciate they do.
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