View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
Dennis90405 Guest
|
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:30 am Post subject: Lost to lesser bid using snipe |
|
|
I set up snipe for $37.01 and item went for
$30. Response was "Ebay Error Page Not
Responding." In the support section this is
evidently an ongoing event.
I understand it happens periodically.
Please tighten down that scope and adjust
the cross-hairs, I hate coming home
empty handed. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Cupid
Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 7598 Location: Bristol, UK
|
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:47 am Post subject: |
|
|
This is an issue with eBay, apparently (and interestingly) though it appears to affect some users on a higher proportion of their bids/snipes than others. Investigating the difference between user accounts might lead to more enlightenment as to what issue eBay has in these instances.
If you use eBay directly you will sometimes see this page when trying to enter a bid (I have) ... when the bid is not time sensitive, i.e. well before the end of the auction you can simply try again to place a bid, I've never had this happen twice in a row.
However, this option is not really open to the automated gixen service as the bids that it places ARE time sensitive, there is not enough time before the end of the auction for it to try again.
So the only practical solution that gixen could make is to bid much earlier, say 15 seconds before the end of the auction and then it would have time to try again if eBay threw this error. HOWEVER, for the vast majority of bids that are placed successfully this would result in manual snipers having time to react to the new bid and place another themselves, so that defeats the whole objective of sniping, apart from being impractical it would be very unpopular with users.
I think you might gain more practical responses on this question if you were to take it up on the eBay support forums since it is a problem that can only really be addressed by the eBay developers. _________________ Mark |
|
Back to top |
|
|
nochkin Guest
|
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:56 am Post subject: |
|
|
Cupid wrote: | ... it is a problem that can only really be addressed by the eBay developers. |
"eBay developers" are lazy ba$tards, they don't care |
|
Back to top |
|
|
mario Site Admin
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 7129
|
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: |
|
|
nochkin wrote: | "eBay developers" are lazy ba$tards, they don't care |
I happen to know that this is not true... And when you think about how large the eBay system is, it may not be developers' fault at all, this could be caused by all kind of different failures (e.g. network devices, load balancers, etc). |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Gixen Advertisements
|
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
nochkin Guest
|
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
mario wrote: | nochkin wrote: | "eBay developers" are lazy ba$tards, they don't care |
I happen to know that this is not true... And when you think about how large the eBay system is, it may not be developers' fault at all, this could be caused by all kind of different failures (e.g. network devices, load balancers, etc). |
I'll be really glad if I was mistaken. Just talking on my own experience.
Support usually blames users if something is not right, but when I manage to send something to "the developers" then it never gets fixed, but instead some work-around is implemented.
I agree that I have no clue about their internal system so maybe this is the only right way to do things. It's possible. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
juangrande
Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 890 Location: San Diego, California, USA
|
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: |
|
|
Thanks, Mario, for reminding us that eBay has hardworking developers working on keeping the system running. Sometimes anger over some recent ill-conceived management decisions clouds our judgment on this point.
As a suggestion to Dennis, it might be helpful to make some manual bids in an attempt to actually see the problem and perhaps Mario could use information you collect to help protect against the problem on Gixen's side. _________________ John
If you don't know where you are going, you will wind up somewhere else.
--- Yogi Berra |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Cupid
Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 7598 Location: Bristol, UK
|
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
I get this error most when I'm transferring watches between accounts... to do that I search buy item number which I imagine is what gixen must do.
One further thought, are the auctions that have this problem more often on sites other than .com (which is where gixen bids from)?... I'm guessing that eBay has to do rationalisation between very remote servers in these cases and perhaps it causes them more problems the more remote that these are to where gixen is placing the bid? _________________ Mark |
|
Back to top |
|
|
mario Site Admin
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 7129
|
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
nochkin wrote: | I'll be really glad if I was mistaken. Just talking on my own experience.
Support usually blames users if something is not right, but when I manage to send something to "the developers" then it never gets fixed, but instead some work-around is implemented.
I agree that I have no clue about their internal system so maybe this is the only right way to do things. It's possible. |
If you take a look at ebay quaterly reports, you will see than only around 7% of net revenues is spent on product development. For comparison, 4 times as much is spent on marketing. eBay developers work long hours, and have no defined working hours (=stay at work as long as needed). |
|
Back to top |
|
|
nochkin Guest
|
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
mario wrote: | eBay developers work long hours, and have no defined working hours (=stay at work as long as needed). |
Let's hope it's true and really works. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Cupid
Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 7598 Location: Bristol, UK
|
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
mario wrote: | If you take a look at ebay quaterly reports, you will see than only around 7% of net revenues is spent on product development. For comparison, 4 times as much is spent on marketing. eBay developers work long hours, and have no defined working hours (=stay at work as long as needed). |
Mario,
Are you now or have you ever been a 'Pink'?
(That's a joke by the way) _________________ Mark |
|
Back to top |
|
|
mario Site Admin
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 7129
|
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Cupid wrote: | Are you now or have you ever been a 'Pink'? |
Mark, please enlighten me, I don't get the joke? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Cupid
Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 7598 Location: Bristol, UK
|
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:09 am Post subject: |
|
|
mario wrote: | Cupid wrote: | Are you now or have you ever been a 'Pink'? |
Mark, please enlighten me, I don't get the joke? |
Sorry perhaps its more British humour... 'Pinks' are what eBay employees are known as on the eBay forums (because their posts are always in a pink colour to distinguish them from the normal users)... and since eBay employees are taking a bit of a pasting on this thread, and you were vehemently defending the developers (at least) I thought it amusing to pose the question in the manner of the Mcarthy questioning of Communists in the 50s (I think), especially since communists are often known as 'Reds'.... Not so funny really I know but even less so with the explaining.... sorry again _________________ Mark |
|
Back to top |
|
|
mario Site Admin
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 7129
|
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:09 am Post subject: |
|
|
Now this is funny indeed... Didn't know about the pink color |
|
Back to top |
|
|
nochkin Guest
|
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Cupid wrote: | Not so funny really I know but even less so with the explaining.... sorry again |
I found it a little amusing actually, especially that I never thought that "Red" is close to "Pink" |
|
Back to top |
|
|
juangrande
Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 890 Location: San Diego, California, USA
|
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I think this thread is starting to turn pink and will be red shortly. When are the moderators going to clean it up? _________________ John
If you don't know where you are going, you will wind up somewhere else.
--- Yogi Berra |
|
Back to top |
|
|
nochkin Guest
|
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
juangrande wrote: | I think this thread is starting to turn pink and will be red shortly. When are the moderators going to clean it up? |
Let's wait when it turns purple! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|