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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:22 am    Post subject: Is there a way someone can know my max bid Reply with quote

item number 263165412314

I won an item using sniping (with Goofbid), but something really odd happened.

My highest bid was 980, and before the snip the bid was at 878.
2 seconds before the end someone bid just below my max (966), and then the snip won with 976, This CANNOT be by chance!
Why someone would bid just at the same time with a bid much higher than the current bid. It does not make sense. Also this must be done by a computer, because of the tight timing.

I will not use goofbid anymore. I just made an account with gixen to give it a try.

Sorry if this is not the right place to post this question, but any ideas on what happened would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is not unusual. Here is the relevant part of the bidding history:

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9***e(6)    $976.00   31 Aug 2017 at 12:48:32PM PDT
9***e(6)    $976.00   31 Aug 2017 at 12:48:32PM PDT
r***r(73)   $966.00   31 Aug 2017 at 12:48:19PM PDT
n***f(3)    $878.00   31 Aug 2017 at 12:36:44PM PDT
n***s(0)    $868.00   31 Aug 2017 at 12:33:25PM PDT
n***f(3)    $858.00   31 Aug 2017 at 11:19:18AM PDT
a***p(36)   $850.00   31 Aug 2017 at 10:14:15AM PDT
n***f(3)    $838.00   31 Aug 2017 at 11:19:15AM PDT
n***f(3)    $817.27   31 Aug 2017 at 11:19:03AM PDT
n***f(3)    $797.27   31 Aug 2017 at 7:06:25AM PDT
s***e(979)  $787.27   30 Aug 2017 at 4:35:41PM PDT


After n***f(3) bid at 12:36:44PM, the current price showing on eBay was $878.00. Then, r***r(73) came along at 12:48:19PM and bid $966.00. After that, the current price showing on eBay would have been $898.00. You came along at 12:48:32PM and made your bid of $980.00 and won it for $976.00.

Notice that r***r(73) bid a full 23 seconds before you did.

It's actually not that unusual that someone else would place a high bid near the end of the auction. After all, that's what you did.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I understand your point. I was just really surprised! I still do not understand why someone would bid almost 100 USD more than current bid, and just below my max. Looks like a bid helping the seller.
Anyway, I guess you are right. I am still no familiar with ebay.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with John (though not the exact detail of his arithmetic, or precise knowledge of the bid increments in that range Laughing ), in principle.

Why is it hard to believe someone else would snipe at a similar level, when you did so yourself ?

It's not unusual for someone else to value something quite similar to yourself, if you both do your research on value it's actually quite likely these days that you would use the same online sources of 'value' information.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:01 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the record, the bid increment is $10.00 for auctions in the range $500.00 - $999.99, per this eBay page.

Yes, I made a typo: The "$898" should have been "$888."

My Ph.D. in Mathematics has never seemed to help me balance my checkbook.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... and 32 minus 19 is ? Laughing

... just ask my wife, arithmetic is not my strong suite either... and as for spelling and grammar..

But as I've told her my degree is in 'Mathematics' not 'adding up' and 'takings away' those are very different disciplines, more suited to shop keepers... Oh, hold on...

Anyway certainly not 'English'...

How many degrees do we have between us ?

How many does it take to administer a sniping discussion Embarassed Rolling Eyes Laughing

It's more fun now you are back...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Mark.

So, I can give you a proof of the fundamental theorem of calculus.

However, computing 32 - 19 correctly apparently gives me trouble. Embarassed

It's fun to be back, Mark.
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