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[quote="mario"]Bill "AUCTION ENDED EARLY" can also mean the snipe was late. Incidence of this is 1 in every 300 cases or so. I will see that I add some code to distinguish this case from when auction really ends early.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Cupid</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:59 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I wasn't expecting you to have read back through the thread, I just wanted to highlight to you that Mario had already addressed the question. <br /> <br />On the suggestion it os already possible to do that, on Gixen it is known as Contingency Group Bidding, see this thread for more details: <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.gixen.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=628" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.gixen.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=628</a></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>1submarine</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:23 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Thanks</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Mario and Cupid, <br /> Thank you for the explanations and quick replies. Sorry about asking the question that was already answered above. Didn't think about the offset till after reading Mario's response and did not go back and reread all threads. <br /> Well everything happens for a reason and although I didn't win any of the three auctions last night. One for above, but someone listed a similar item with buy it now so I saved $100. On the other two items Gixen placed the bids, but below the reserve price. Seller came back with a second chance and lowered the price to my high bid on one of them. So it all worked out in the end to my benefit. <br /> <br /> Also one suggestion for future upgrades. You might want to have a grouping option that only bids on subsequent items if you win the first. That would help when you are thinking about bidding on several items from someone with abnormally high shipping but worth it if combined for several items. Just a thought to keep you tech guys busy and improving GIXEN <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>mario</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:16 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Delay</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>1submarine wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br /> In short if 6 seconds prior to end doesn't go through then should I increase to 8 or 10? </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />In some cases this might help (I personally always use 8 seconds anyway), but in most "late" cases, according to logs, it takes much longer to receive a response from ebay (e.g. half a minute or so).</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Cupid</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:50 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Delay</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>1submarine wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> Just trying to see if I need to adjust the default offset if eBay is having glitches. <br /> In short if 6 seconds prior to end doesn't go through then should I increase to 8 or 10? </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I asked almost the same question on 11th November on this thread (see above) and Mario amswered it then. <br /> <br />It appears that the only way to improve things, in this respect, for yourself is to have the snipe mirrored since the servers will most likely be interacting with different eBay servers (which is where the problem lies), increasing the offset is unlikely to make any difference.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>1submarine</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:36 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Delay</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Mario, <br /> BTW can you tell when the bid actually tried to go in? (Since it appears that there was a problem submitting the bid on time) Just trying to see if I need to adjust the default offset if eBay is having glitches. <br /> In short if 6 seconds prior to end doesn't go through then should I increase to 8 or 10? If the bid was 30 sec or so too late then I figure that inputting too early would offset the snipe service and just write it off as a fluke. <br /> For all the readers I am still very happy with GIXEN and it has helped me win several auctions without having to be up in the middle of the night or while at work. It also helps by not having someone come back and put in $1 bids to up the auction till they finally beat you out. Highly recommend you sign up if you don't use it already.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>1submarine</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:19 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Thanks</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Mario, <br /> Thank you for the prompt answer.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>mario</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:09 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: auction ended early</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>1submarine wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">For item number 230407389668, I received the auction ended early. It ran the whole time and my bid was much more than the winning bid. This is the first time that Gixen hasn't worked. I saw your posts that 1 in 300 don't go through from 2006, what is the current success rate? <br /> I understand that when grouped together the Mirror doesn't also go. For items that are a few days apart, should I not group to get the reliability of the Mirror since I do subscribe? Thanks</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I think I just investigated this yesterday and found the current failure rate to be 0.88%, which is 2-3 times higher than usual, likely due to ebay's servers being much busier due to holiday season. This failure rate is per single server only. <br /> <br />You are right about the grouping - if important item, do not group it, as it is extremely unlikely that both main & mirror will fail.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>1submarine</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:51 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: auction ended early</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">For item number 230407389668, I received the auction ended early. It ran the whole time and my bid was much more than the winning bid. This is the first time that Gixen hasn't worked. I saw your posts that 1 in 300 don't go through from 2006, what is the current success rate? <br /> I understand that when grouped together the Mirror doesn't also go. For items that are a few days apart, should I not group to get the reliability of the Mirror since I do subscribe? Thanks</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>mario</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:21 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Correct, a while ago I decided to store the original end time, just for situations like this one.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Cupid</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:28 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Anonymous wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Thanks Mario, where did you find out the original end time or the altered one? I can only find the one time..</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Mario will have had that in his database on Gixen, it would have been picked up from the page when you entered the snipe so that Gixen would know when to bid. <br /> <br />As Mario says, eBay have stopped providing any indication that a seller has ended an auction early, particularly when there were no bids placed, you can still see cancelled bids when there have been some... <br /> <br />I can't really see the logic for eBay providing less information than they used to, but there it is.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:50 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>mario wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />Rowan, there is no doubt that this listing was ended early by seller. eBay stopped displaying a proper message about this though. <br /> <br />The original end time was Tue Dec 8 16:45:06 PST. Seller ended this item 9 minutes early, on Tue Dec 8 16:36:30 PST.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Thanks Mario, where did you find out the original end time or the altered one? I can only find the one time..</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>mario</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:26 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Rowan wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">eBay did not say anything about the listing being ended early (that I can see). What other reason would I see this message? The item number was 250540992292 if that helps.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Rowan, there is no doubt that this listing was ended early by seller. eBay stopped displaying a proper message about this though. <br /> <br />The original end time was Tue Dec 8 16:45:06 PST. Seller ended this item 9 minutes early, on Tue Dec 8 16:36:30 PST.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Rowan</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:49 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>mario wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />Rowan, it is different - this means that the auction end time changed, usually because seller decided to end it early (or for other reason). Hence the snipe couldn't have been placed.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />eBay did not say anything about the listing being ended early (that I can see). What other reason would I see this message? The item number was 250540992292 if that helps. <br /> <br />By the way, thanks for all your hard work and support!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:25 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">goa101 - ok will keep at it - thanks for investigating</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>mario</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:51 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Anonymous wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">my username is goa101. Three snipes were placed over three days and non were running simultaneously.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I found only two that "ended early" under your username, and three that you won. <br /> <br />This prompted me to look at the failure statistics in the last 3 days, and I found it to be 0.88% (of the last 10124 snipes 90 ended with "ENDED EARLY" message). This is much higher than normal (which is ~0.3%), likely due to higher traffic coming to ebay servers. <br /> <br />As for the two failures that you had (out of 5 snipes), you were quite unlucky <img src="images/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" border="0" />. I hope you can find similar items again.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:45 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">my username is goa101. Three snipes were placed over three days and non were running simultaneously.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>mario</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:42 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Rowan wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">This just happened to me, I placed 2 snipes, one failed, with the message "ENDED (AUCTION END TIME CHANGED)" which seems a little different to everyone else's messages.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Rowan, it is different - this means that the auction end time changed, usually because seller decided to end it early (or for other reason). Hence the snipe couldn't have been placed.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Rowan</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:13 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">This just happened to me, I placed 2 snipes, one failed, with the message "ENDED (AUCTION END TIME CHANGED)" which seems a little different to everyone else's messages.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>mario</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:38 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Three times is too many. How many auctions did you snipe? Please let me know what your username is and I will investigate that.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:29 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">This has happened to me twice in 3 snipes I placed in the past few days. Its very frustrating as I always had no problem with Gixen. If it happens again i'm going to switch to a more reliable alternative even if it means paying for it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Cupid</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:08 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">OK, <br /> <br /> Yes thinking about it further, when I get a lack of response from eBay from my home computer it is usually quite a significant one, generally what I'm doing is not time significant though, so its more frustrating than annoying. <br /> <br /> Also I dont tend to group snipes, so in order for one of mine to fail both Gixen servers would have to hit an eBay roadblock at exactly the same time... I'm guessing the likelihood of that is going to be around 1 in 90000, so I probably do have to wait a while before it affects me in terms of actually missing out... It is possible that I have just not noticed the 1 in 300 case if the other server did the job for me.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>mario</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:14 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Mark, I don't think that would help in most cases - it looks like when this final bid request hangs (and it's still rare), it takes a while, sometimes a full minute to get response... My guess is that it's ebay's servers taking longer to respond, but I have yet to investigate this.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Cupid</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:09 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Is there any correlation between the offset and the incidence of the bid being late? <br /> <br />Might this be a case for increasing the default offset, perhaps to 8 seconds? <br /> <br />I have that as my default anyway, and have not experienced a late bid ... I do have quite a few snipes per day, with an incidence of 1 in 300 I would have expected to have a few by now. <br /> <br />If the default were increased, I would perhaps increase my offset even further.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>mario</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:35 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: auction ended early</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>cs-wood wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I also missed even though my bid was considerably higher than the purchaser's with the note 'Auction Ended Early'. Does this happen often because if so, I would probably have bought this particular item using ebay only?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I believe it's 1 out of 300 auctions, so not too often. I will certainly look into this, as I can see increased number of complains lately. This may be due to increased traffic, I am not sure yet.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>cs-wood</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:50 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: auction ended early</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I also missed even though my bid was considerably higher than the purchaser's with the note 'Auction Ended Early'. Does this happen often because if so, I would probably have bought this particular item using ebay only?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>mario</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:39 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Bill "AUCTION ENDED EARLY" can also mean the snipe was late. Incidence of this is 1 in every 300 cases or so. <br /> <br />I will see that I add some code to distinguish this case from when auction really ends early.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>m33rcat</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:08 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hi, <br /> <br />I was bidding on item # 280416994552. The status is AUCTION ENDED EARLY and my high bid was $82. I was wrong about the time in my last post - the start time was in PDT and the end time was in PST (why?!) so it looked as if the listing finished an hour early when in fact it did not (see below). However it <span style="text-decoration: underline">did not</span> end early so is this likely a case of a failed snipe? <br /> <br /> o***i( 7 ) US $76.00 Nov-06-09 <span style="font-weight: bold">09:30:06 PST</span> <br /> u***e( 109) US $75.00 Nov-06-09 09:29:22 PST <br /> r***g( 668) US $66.76 Nov-06-09 09:26:35 PST <br /> r***g( 668) US $56.76 Nov-06-09 09:25:21 PST <br /> h***h( 415) US $41.05 Nov-05-09 09:29:38 PST <br /> h***h( 415) US $25.00 Nov-04-09 21:55:37 PST <br /> l***8( 313) US $22.88 Nov-04-09 21:09:42 PST <br /> h***h( 415) US $19.99 Nov-04-09 10:06:40 PST <br /> Starting Price US $19.99 Oct-30-09 <span style="font-weight: bold">10:30:19 PDT</span> <br /> <br />Cheers, <br />Bill</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Cupid</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:37 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Bill (m33rcat), <br /> <br /> Usually when the time changes eBay does not alter the duration of the listings, though obviously that means that the time of day that it ends in the zone that has changed is different by the amount of the change. As a result of this usually Gixen is not affected (though I know it was some years ago). <br /> <br /> Can you give more details of any failures that you have had so that it can be investigated further to definitively determine what the reason was.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>m33rcat</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:48 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Same happened here - I think the US changed the date it finishes Daylight Savings Time this year to 1st Nov. So for listings starting before 1st Nov and finishing afterwards the end time actually changed - looks like they finish 1 hour early - check the bidding history times. Not sure if this is an eBay or Gixen issue though... <br /> <br />Cheers, <br />Bill</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>mario</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:48 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">None of this applies - snipes being late just happen. My latest statistics says 1 in 300 or so snipes on a single server.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>p1gp3n</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:42 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: auction ended early</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">i'm also wondering if this error could result from another bidder using gixen or another sniper for the same item? thanks!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>p1gp3n</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:40 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: auction ended early</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">first, i want to thank gixen as it has been very reliable for me in the past. <br /> <br />i got this same error "auction ended early". i'm wondering if it has anything do with daylight saving time, since we just fell back an hour this last weekend?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>mario</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:59 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Charles, unfortunately most of the time this message then means Gixen was late (when seller ends it early you usually see "ENDED EARLY BY SELLER"). I am sorry about that, but it happens.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>charles2401</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:11 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: auction ended early</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Gixen reported a listing ended early but the lister said it ran the advertised duration, hence no bid from me. How is this possible. Item # is 290358177862 <br />Regards <br />Charles</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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